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#吐槽
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看了 HN 讨论, 唯一有用的. 来自 #GrapheneOS 曾经(其实现在也是)的首席开发者对主要质疑「摩托罗拉移动是一家中国公司」的回复:
> I'm calling out Graphene for dealing with a Chinese-owned company instead of US or Euro-owned vendor. There is a difference between manufacturing parts and components in China, and the entire design/development, production, assembly, and maintenance being owned by a Chinese-owned vendor.
Nearly the entire design and development process for European phone brands is done by Chinese ODM partners. It wouldn't be a positive to have a largely non-technical company between us and the company doing the technical work.
Our partnership with Motorola Mobility isn't exclusive. Motorola Mobility are currently the only company both willing and able to meet our hardware requirements. We've talked to multiple smaller companies but they're currently unable to provide what we need.
> Not to mention that by their actions Graphene are aiding an economic and political adversary develop more secure devices.
GrapheneOS isn't based in the US and has no American directors but yet you're talking about it as if it's an American state-owned enterprise. It's the US which regularly threatens to destabilize and annex the country where we're based, not China. There's no Canadian or European company which is truly designing and building modern smartphones. We could have worked with a South Korean company if they had wanted to build a device with official GrapheneOS support instead of only improving their own OS.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47216646
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看了 HN 讨论, 唯一有用的. 来自 #GrapheneOS 曾经(其实现在也是)的首席开发者对主要质疑「摩托罗拉移动是一家中国公司」的回复:
> I'm calling out Graphene for dealing with a Chinese-owned company instead of US or Euro-owned vendor. There is a difference between manufacturing parts and components in China, and the entire design/development, production, assembly, and maintenance being owned by a Chinese-owned vendor.
Nearly the entire design and development process for European phone brands is done by Chinese ODM partners. It wouldn't be a positive to have a largely non-technical company between us and the company doing the technical work.
Our partnership with Motorola Mobility isn't exclusive. Motorola Mobility are currently the only company both willing and able to meet our hardware requirements. We've talked to multiple smaller companies but they're currently unable to provide what we need.
> Not to mention that by their actions Graphene are aiding an economic and political adversary develop more secure devices.
GrapheneOS isn't based in the US and has no American directors but yet you're talking about it as if it's an American state-owned enterprise. It's the US which regularly threatens to destabilize and annex the country where we're based, not China. There's no Canadian or European company which is truly designing and building modern smartphones. We could have worked with a South Korean company if they had wanted to build a device with official GrapheneOS support instead of only improving their own OS.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47216646
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#吐槽
In reply to nevent1q…4gau
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新闻稿出来了, 还真是摩托罗拉.
#GrapheneOS
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新闻稿出来了, 还真是摩托罗拉.
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nevent1q…amv0
We are happy to announce a long-term partnership with Motorola. Together, we will collaborate on new future devices that meet our stringent privacy and security standards.
https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/
#GrapheneOS
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Leak confirms GrapheneOS & Motorola partnership for non-Pixel hardware - General / News - Privacy Guides Community
https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/leak-confirms-grapheneos-motorola-partnership-for-non-pixel-hardware/35840/46
怎么这里也有 Leak, 所以会是摩托罗拉吗?
#GrapheneOS
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#吐槽
In reply to nevent1q…yrjf
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#GrapheneOS 的 SoC 选择最早会在 2026 年第四季度确定(接近 2027 年初), 因为高通才给骁龙 8 Elite Gen 5 (第二代骁龙 8 Elite)支持上 Arm 内存标记扩展(Memory Tagging Extension, MTE)[1], 该系列也只有 Elite 型号支持 MTE, 可能还有很多问题, 而 MTE 是 GrapheneOS 选择 SoC 时候的重要指标.
于是, 现在 GrapheneOS 还在等 8 Elite Gen 5 之后的新高通移动平台发布, 这个时间按照一般进度就是在 2026Q4 (新平台发布)至几个月后的 2027 年(OEM 设备正式上市).
https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/115887877181956392
[1]: https://developer.android.com/ndk/guides/arm-mte?hl=zh-cn
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#GrapheneOS 的 SoC 选择最早会在 2026 年第四季度确定(接近 2027 年初), 因为高通才给骁龙 8 Elite Gen 5 (第二代骁龙 8 Elite)支持上 Arm 内存标记扩展(Memory Tagging Extension, MTE)[1], 该系列也只有 Elite 型号支持 MTE, 可能还有很多问题, 而 MTE 是 GrapheneOS 选择 SoC 时候的重要指标.
于是, 现在 GrapheneOS 还在等 8 Elite Gen 5 之后的新高通移动平台发布, 这个时间按照一般进度就是在 2026Q4 (新平台发布)至几个月后的 2027 年(OEM 设备正式上市).
https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/115887877181956392
[1]: https://developer.android.com/ndk/guides/arm-mte?hl=zh-cn
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