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Kagi founder here. Orion isn't open source yet primarily because we're a 5-person team that spent 6+ years building this and created significant IP doing so, and we're not in a position to defend our work against a well-funded company using it as a base (we care very much about the business model of the browser surviving). Restrictive licenses help in theory but enforcing them against a company with a larger legal budget doesn't.
We also see limited upside from community contributions - the number of people who can meaningfully work on a WebKit browser is small (from our experience hiring), and most of them already work at Apple or Kagi. Meanwhile, managing an open source codebase of this size would add real strain to our small team.

The plan is however to open source when Orion is self-sufficient (business model of Orion is you are the customer and can pay for it - like we used to pay for browsers 20 years ago before advertisers started paying for our browsing), meaning it can sustain its own development independent of Kagi Search. I want to take the opportunity to thank all people who supported the Orion browser vision [1]. We're not there yet but recent 1.0 launch and expanding to Linux are steps in that direction. And on Jan 1st this year we began development of Orion for Windows (HN exclusive yay!).

I understand this is unsatisfying to people who want source access now. It's a tradeoff we've made deliberately, not something we're hiding behind.

[1] https://kagi.com/stats?sub_stats=orion

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Kagi releases alpha version of Orion for Linux
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46554890

#opensource

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#吐槽

In reply to nevent1q…7pt5
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一边赌你不会有那么多无法去重的数据能传得上来更不会每个都下一遍, 另一边只能赌它真存个 5PB 再跑它 5PB 流量也不会来找茬.
十分特色的网盘商业化, 它是真的想复刻 115 啊.

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#吐槽

#123云盘 全新的超级加倍对赌协议, 比长期VIP更上一层楼

关于招募无限容量VIP服务内测志愿者的公告
https://www.123pan.com/Notice/130

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#吐槽

In reply to nevent1q…0mvc
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Nostr 有不同安全等级的私信 NIP, NIP-04 和 NIP-17 应对大多数情况下一对一私信足够使用了. NIP-EE 是被 White Noise 驱动下开发出的 Signal 协议去中心化替代品, 现在已经完善成为了「土拨鼠协议(Marmot Protocol)」, 核心主要是面向大型群聊并和 MLS 接轨, 使用 Nostr 的身份和中继基础设施, 但已经基本上是个相对独立的协议了.
具体发展可以看 White Noise 的文章.
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naddr1qq…2x3q

The Year Encrypted Messaging Came to Nostr

In an era of increasing surveillance and data commodification, the need for sovereign encrypted messaging has never been more Nostr offered a promising foundation: a decentralized protocol that lets users own their identity and broadcast messages across a network of relays without requiring permission. But it had a gap. While public notes could flow freely, private communication remained an unsolved problem. NIP-04, Nostr's original encrypted messaging spec, had critical cryptographic vulnerabilities. NIP-17 improved on this but still leaks metadata and offers no forward secrecy or post-compromise security.
#吐槽

In reply to nevent1q…5q9g
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我想起之前买台灯买了个宜家的, 用了几年也还不错. 后来打算买个书桌, 才知道宜家居然还有蜂窝纸板封装的桌板卖, 好多人是买别家的桌板然后买宜家的桌腿组合用.
喜欢选宜家的人也并不一定都是为了所谓质量, 而是家居选品本就是个天坑, 决策成本和沉没成本都非常高. 买它, 就和买小米米家的东西差不多, 不会特别好, 但也不会烂到没法用, 设计不会非常顶尖, 但也不会难看到人拍照都要刻意躲开它.
不过我也没法排除有人就是奔着这个瑞典品牌去消费的, 纯正的北欧血脉, 以及纯正的北欧新现代主义设计, 国内应该也仅此一家.

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In reply to nevent1q…rz6y
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:huaji: 支持一下环境变量配置首页默认显示中继组就行了. 最近一个版本 nostr.moe 用 cherry-pick 更出问题来 :minecraft_flame: , 力竭了, 等过几个星期才能慢慢修.
其他方面就自定义配色和图标(社区品牌化).

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